Brent Warner 0:00
This is the HigherEdTech podcast season 4 episode 15: Physical Accessories in a Digital World

Tim Van Norman 0:19
Welcome to today’s HigherEdTech podcast. I’m Tim VanNorman, the instructional technologist here at Irvine Valley College.

Brent Warner 0:25
And I’m Brent Warner, Professor of ESL here at IVC. We both enjoy integrating technology into the classroom, which is what this show is all about.

Tim Van Norman 0:33
Welcome. We’re glad you’re here with us. So Brent, middle of the semester, yeah. How’s it going?

Brent Warner 0:39
Yeah, it’s going well, you know, time is zipping by we’re already. We’re upon midterms here. I guess they’re coming up close. And it just feels like the semester is really zippin. And I haven’t gotten everything that I want to get done. And I’m sure you know, the feeling. How things been for you, you were on vacation, right?

Tim Van Norman 0:59
Good. Yes, I took a couple of weeks off on vacation. I don’t know that I’ve done that in the last a lot of years. To take two weeks, and was good got out of town. And part of the impetus for this particular topic is What do you take on vacation? And I realized, as I was on vacation, some stuff I took. I didn’t use it all and other stuff I wish I had Yeah, so…

Brent Warner 1:29
Well – glad you’re back. And I’m glad you have maybe had time now to answer the 7000 emails that have been waiting in your inbox.

Tim Van Norman 1:37
I finished them all today, the last of them today.

Brent Warner 1:39
Good, good, good. So today we are talking about, you know, kind of different different settings, we’re coming up on conference season, you know, it’s it’s around the corner here, lots of those start coming up in in spring, around spring, break time and all that. So amongst other places that we might need to have some physical accessories, whether that be a well, we’ll talk about all of them inside of here. But let’s jump over and start to see and what we might be wanting to bring in carry around with us even though most of the time we don’t need to carry as much as we used to in the past.

Tim Van Norman 2:16
Yeah, you’re absolutely right. As we look at conference, season, vacation, even remote work, we used to have to have all kinds of technology and multiple this and, and a suitcase full of technology. And you didn’t you felt like it was more work to go to conference than it was to be at home. Oh, at least luggage and stuff like that to

Brent Warner 2:41
Well not to mention the papers, like just papers alone, which is an obvious like, we don’t need to carry those things around with us anymore. But I mean, for the most part, but but like, you know, we would have books and binders and then and then you’re trying to organize them inside of like, a tiny little tote bag or something. And, you know, all that stuff was really a lot. You know, we didn’t think about it much at the time. But looking back, it’s like, oh, man, you had to carry around all this stuff. And it was heavy. And now we’re replacing those papers, computers and different things. But But I want to jump in, I think we should start with the conferences, right. So the other the we’ll get to the vacations and the other things. But let’s start with the conferences because they are coming up. And so maybe we can just do a little back and forth on some things that we suggest that people consider the physical things you might want to carry along with you to the conferences.

Tim Van Norman 3:30
And part of thinking about a conference is you’re probably going to be staying in a hotel, you’re probably going to be in a conference, many conferences, you move around while you’re in the conference. So you want to be completely portable. But you might want to work at night, you want to take notes. But you might want to have the ability to answer emails or to grade papers in downtime or to talk to somebody or you know, call home and stuff like that. So there’s thinking about what you’re going to be doing means that will that will direct what you actually do need to take with you. So for me, the first thing I always tried to bring is my rocket book. So rocket book is basically a high end pen, paper combination. moleskin is another one similar to that, where you write you take a picture with your phone, and it puts it in PDF for you. And it’s done. Really, really nice and conferences. Yeah, you literally sit there and now your notes aren’t just on paper, but you’re also not sitting there looking at a screen the whole time.

Brent Warner 4:37
Can you remind me Tim does rocket book does that have just regular paper in it or is it a erasable paper or

Tim Van Norman 4:45
it’s erasable pens and it’s an erasable paper? Do you have to use one Frixion pen, but which can be very, very cheap. And even the rocket books themselves aren’t that expensive? And but it’s really easy. You walk in, you write and take a picture with your phone, somebody else can take a picture with their phone and, and free app, it’s just a really neat way of taking notes. Like you used to, yeah,

Brent Warner 5:15
I’ll tie that with my, my kind of paper and pen suggestion, which was just good old fashioned paper and pen like non tech conversation. And, of course, rocket books fine and great. But I’m kind of thinking, and I think maybe rocket book and white book have some of these like little mini notebook versions, right, the ones that you can kind of stick in your back pocket. And so if you have that a rocket book, or white book, or whichever brand, you know, that’s great. If not, you can go pick up for less than $1. at CVS, you can get one of those little mini composition books that you can just stick in your pocket, or a little pen. Just having that around with you can be a lifesaver, right? So. So those, those reusable notebooks like the rocket book are great, but they’re, you know, a little big, right? They don’t, they don’t fit in your pocket, most of most of them, right, the regular ones. And so. So in addition to that, I’m going to add the little pocket size, the super small version, that you can just add a quick note, maybe write someone’s email address down if you you know, or whatever, you know, your phone runs out of batteries. We’ll talk about that, too. But yeah, great. So so some sort of actual physical writing system is great. What else would you bring up,

Tim Van Norman 6:26
I like to bring a laptop, could be an iPad, but make it something light, don’t bring that 17 inch, you know, gaming laptop, unless you want to use that for for afterwards. And for relaxing. But your you want to be portable, stay portable, you know, a 40 pound, backpack or or briefcase is just too much to lug around between rooms. And then also pay attention to what’s going on in the conference. So while you might have that, maybe leave that clothes, and in the bag while you’re actually in the conference, and only open it when you really do need it. One of the conferences I was at I had it closed on my table, almost the whole conference, only opening it when I actually wanted to. And that was so much more relaxing. I was writing using my rocket book, like I was talking about pen paper, that type of thing. But so I was still getting, but I was actually participating in the conference. Yeah, rather than checking my email and trying to fix a problem or whatever.

Brent Warner 7:34
Yeah, so I do like that for an iPad or a tablet or something like that kind of when you have when you have a single app open. And it’s, you know, with a computer, it’s so tempting to just jump into all the other apps and everything, I think with an iPad or you know, whatever, it’s a little easier because it’s single app at a time mostly, I mean, there, those are developing and changing a bit, but but it is, you know, kind of easy to go, Okay, well, I’ve just got my notes app open. And so I’m only going to write notes, then I’ll put it down. While I’m not doing that. And I’m not going to be looking at other stuff. So I do like that. I’m going to add in a multi port USB hub of some sort whatever matches your computer. So for mine, it’s like a USB C hub. I think that’s fairly common at this point. But but any of those hubs, those multi dongle ones that can plug in USB A and you can plug in your headphones, and you can plug in an HDMI port, and you can plug in, you know, like you can plug in an SD card, all of these things like it’s it’s a, it’s a serves all purpose. It’s a little external one. And it’s useful not only for you, maybe if you’re doing presentations or things, but you might just show up, and it’s almost inevitable that you’re going to end up at a session where someone’s having some tech problem, right? So like, so being ready to go, like I’ve got something right and share it and then and you know, so they can connect their computer to it or whatever else that is. So it serves two purposes. One, one, it helps you get things connected to your computer or whatever you’re using. But also it can, it does, almost inevitably ends up being useful for someone else as well. So there’s lots of these hubs, we’ll put a link to one that I like, or the similar one to the one that I have in the show notes as well.

Tim Van Norman 9:13
Absolutely. And along those lines, extra chargers. Bring your laptop charger, if you’ve got a USB C is really common right now. Bring that and just throw it your bag with you, even when you’re in conferences for exactly that same reason. Last conference I was at I had one and I had it sitting on the table and everybody at the table wanted to be using it at one point or another because oh hey, my cell phone battery’s about to die. And sure enough, there was a cable that that they could just plug in and be up and running. A lot of conferences, several conferences I’ve been at, you can get tchotchkes and basically one is a a cable that splits into multiple different types of ends. So you got USB C, USB, a FireWire, etc. And something like that is really great to take along. Because, again, I don’t use FireWire. But somebody else might need it, and oh, click and, and you can help them, which is just being a good citizen. And and it’s really nice to be able to do that. And it’s a great way to meet other people.

Brent Warner 10:28
Yeah, and I’ll connect one that I particularly liked, I’m actually some of these things I have had for several years. And so I’m not sure if there’s newer versions, but this one I have is the, the anchor power core 20. It’s, it’s a little bit heftier than a cell phone, you know, it’s kind of a little, you know, it’s, it’s about the size of a cell phone, but a little bit thicker, but it’s real high capacity, you know, it can recharge a laptop, two times and an iPhone three times, you know, like they’ve got these numbers on there. So go take a look at those, it doesn’t have to be super heavy anymore. These things, these batteries are better than they were in the past. And so you can you can slide it in fairly easily. Yeah, just one of those things, again, just like you said, so that particular one is good. But any choice out there that you can find is is nice. Any last things that you’d want to bring to a conference, two

Tim Van Norman 11:16
HDMI cables, I find that I love. I’m in the hotel room at night, and I just want to relax and watch a some YouTube or Netflix or something like that. Rather than get on their TV and do stuff, I can plug my laptop into the TV. And now all of my stuff is on my laptop. Yeah. Notice I’m not talking about working necessarily using TV, I’m trying to relax a little bit and just be able to view that it’s a really nice way to chill out. And it’s my stuff, I don’t have to try to remember what my password was, I don’t have to log into something of theirs. It’s just mine. Click and I’m done. When you do that, though, also remember, if you need a dongle, yeah, so make sure that, especially if you’re going to present, make sure you got an ability for your computer, your laptop or whatever to go to HDMI, specifically, most places I’ve been lately, HDMI works well. But and make sure if you’ve got a an adapter, you need an adapter, make sure it’s a high quality one. Some of them, some of the really cheap ones are working 99% of the time, but I can guarantee you that’s the one that’s going to fail when you go to a conference and you’re gonna present 1%

Brent Warner 12:41
of the day you’re there. Exactly. And, you know, this reminded me of Tim to I think it kind of very connected but like, I wonder you know, they have the the the Roku sticks, or the the Chromecast or whatever. You could also bring one of those with you. And that would already be programmed with your logins in there as well. So if you’re just talking entertainment stuff, that might be an even quick, quicker, easier way possibly to do it as well. Right, depending on what your setup is. But that’s another possibility.

Tim Van Norman 13:12
Exactly. And that that’s the whole point is bring something to entertain yourself to not have to sit there and watch just the live TV that they happen to have available. Yeah,

Brent Warner 13:25
yeah. So my last one for conferences is again, simple. It’s non techie, but a 12 ounce and I am quite specific about this size, a 12 ounce Hydroflask or clean canteen are one of those one of those canteens that you can buy, right 12 ounces is good, because it’s not too heavy, or you can put coffee in it and then later in the day, you can fill it up with water around the around the conference and things like that. I think for me, those bigger ones, I do have like a 40 ounce one of those things, and it’s like, I leave that in the car. But when I’m actually carrying something around inside of the conference with me, I’ve got one that has just a little a little flip up handle on the top. So I can you know, I can stick it in my bag or I can you know, carry it on my finger or whatever else. And so having just some sort of thing for for your, your rehydration purposes or for your caffeination purposes is a probably a valuable addition to your, your little kit. They’re

Tim Van Norman 14:23
nothing like trying to walk around a conference with the tiny little Dixie cups of water. And you know, you standing there and drink 12 of them in order to get enough to, you know, to be worth it. So yeah.

Brent Warner 14:36
Cool. Anything else?

Tim Van Norman 14:38
I think there’s gonna be lots of overlap in here. We’re not necessarily going to be saying too much overlap. But I think we’re gonna have some more things as we talk about these others as well. All right, that’ll come up.

Brent Warner 14:51
Well, let’s jump over to a vacation. So so maybe here I was talking about this with my wife recently. It’s like kind of one of the ways that teachers can afford to go on vacations is by adding two days to their conference time. Right? So, so you might have a lot of the same things with you on your vacation, depending on how you’re trying to save money, but, but we do have some some other things we might think about for vacation. So, So Tim, you were just on vacation? What did you bring? And what did you and let’s also add, what did you find that you didn’t need that you brought with you. Um,

Tim Van Norman 15:26
I had an iPad and a laptop and stuff like that. I don’t think I turned my iPad on once. I, if I needed something that I couldn’t do on my phone, I wanted my laptop. Yeah. And I honestly did what I could to leave my laptop in the hotel room. You know, as much as I was doing anything else I could, I avoided, I would just use it at night, if I wanted to that type of thing. So iPad was a big one that I wound up not using. And then it just, actually I was pretty good this time. I hadn’t packed a whole lot of extra. But, uh, one thing I always want is chargers mentioned before, but there’s always Oh, you know, my charger, I forgot my charger, my whatever. It’s amazing how much you just need chargers. And like my watch uses a different charger than my phone. But my phone and my laptop both use the same charger. So picking and choosing is really important there. The brick that you were talking about, I brought one of those along. Oh, was that nice? traveling on the airplane, click, my son needed something click, you know, you didn’t even have to think about it. It was just there. Um, but I would also suggest bringing along and I did this and I had 10 hour drives a couple of days. And a book audio book specifically, just hit play on your phone and just cruise. It’s a great way to actually engage differently in a book. If you aren’t into audiobooks. Try it? Yeah, for sure. Especially if you’re driving, you probably shouldn’t be watching something.

Brent Warner 17:22
I do see that, unfortunately, on the road sometimes. But yeah. And again, I know there’s still people that are kind of hesitant with audio audiobooks, but it’s worth going in. And just checking a few different authors, you’d also it doesn’t have to cost money, right, you can go log into your library’s audiobooks system. So if you get Libby or overdrive or one of those apps, and then connect it to your local library, then you do have a bunch of options. Or maybe not. Maybe you can’t like rent and download the brand newest book, but there’s so many choices out there. And so so test it out, find different authors and find different readers like the performers, because sometimes you I know a lot of people that choose now their audiobooks based on the performer that they like, who reads well, or whatever else that is. So there’s some options there too.

Tim Van Norman 18:07
Along those same lines, podcasts. It’s a great time to just explore

Brent Warner 18:12
higher ed tech podcast.

Tim Van Norman 18:16
There’s a couple of podcasts I hadn’t listened to in a couple of years. And oh, that’s right, I you know, what are they talking about now? And stuff and it’s, it’s just a neat way of loci catching up.

Brent Warner 18:30
Yeah. All right, I’m gonna throw in mine. I know we’re liquid said we’re gonna be repeating other things. So I’m gonna go in a totally different direction. And I’m going to say leave everything behind all of your tech. I know this is people are twitching right now at the, at the thought of leaving their phone behind. But I did that one time for vacation. I went to Hawaii for a week. And I didn’t even bring my phone with me, much to my wife’s chagrin. It did of course, turn out like okay, well, having a map on this case is great or having a you know, like, or just checking in on emails, but I will say that like 85% of the time, it was so relaxing to not have that phone with me or to not have something tethering me to anything else except for my time in Hawaii. Right. And so, you know, it’s just a challenge, I guess maybe to people like like, throw it out there as a consideration. I know that one not a lot of people are going to take us up or take me up on it. But But I will say like trying to go on a vacation without having your phone with you is a it was a surprisingly like freeing experience. And so if you can figure out a way to make that work, it might be worth exploring.

Tim Van Norman 19:46
Absolutely. That’s I couple years ago, I was on some cruises, and didn’t want to pay for Wi Fi didn’t want to pay for anything. So basically, my cell phone stayed off The whole time and my wife commented that she had never seen me more relaxed. Because it’s true, you, when you don’t have it and you can’t have it, you’re out in the middle of the ocean, you’re somewhere where you can’t have it, it can be a lot more relaxing.

Brent Warner 20:17
Okay, so vacation is over, we got to come back. Maybe we’re teaching remotely, maybe we’re getting that one last class in online. And then, and then we’re going to come back and get into computers and teach our classes. So. So Tim, I know that like a lot of people who are teaching remotely like, you know, maybe they have good setups at this point, or maybe they’re just about to start teaching remotely. So what are some of the things that you think are important for, for teaching remotely in that in that kind of physical setup there?

Tim Van Norman 20:48
Well, we’ve done a couple episodes about this in the past as well, but a number one, and I think you’ll agree with this, multiple screens, whatever, you’ve got desktop, laptop, whatever, multiple screens, it’s so much nicer if you can do two, or three. But the difference between one and two is almost exponential. It’s just huge. And then having a separate device that you can see what’s going on. Yeah, we’ve talked about a separate tablet or laptop, you know, you’re teaching off of one device. And now just having seeing your class on zoom on another screen is no sound, but seeing what else is going on what you’re missing, can be really, really freeing, you know, it’s not additional work. It’s just additional Oh, that is what I’m doing? Yes, I am sharing my screen, how many times you hear somebody say, oh, can everybody see my screen? Okay? Instead, you just glanced at it, you know, everybody can see your screen. And you you look more polished simply by having that other device.

Brent Warner 22:00
Yeah, and that’s, um, you know, I mean, it’s, it’s a great and not particularly hard thing to do, if you happen to have the second, the second device already ready there, and kind of just throw that open there. So I definitely agree with that. And it’s actually something I haven’t totally integrated into my workflow yet. But at some point, it will be set up where I go, Okay, here’s the extra monitor, that’s always just the extra login for things. So yeah, that’s, that’s a really great one. And I have one kind of in connection. So I also kind of agree with you the same things, we said multiple screens as much as possible. Tablet, as well, we talked in previous episodes about how to connect your tablet and make that be your you know, like, you’d also make that a presenter like second screen, if you’re doing the writing stuff. That’s great. And then also, you know, I do think it’s worth investing in a better quality webcam. So we’ve mentioned this in the past too. I like the Logitech seat 920 It’s a pretty solid camera, if the price was insane during COVID, the original like, you know, supply shortage and all that type of stuff, it was so expensive, but now it’s back down to their kind of reasonable 60 ish dollar price. So, so a good quality webcam, probably better than the one inside of your laptop. I mean, it’s definitely better, but like, it shouldn’t be better, you should be investing in a better one than then that super, super ultra thin camera that’s in the, you know, the top of your laptop somehow.

Tim Van Norman 23:29
Absolutely. Along those lines, comfortable headset. And there’s a lot of different kinds. I personally like the shocks, open move, you know, like job or evolve. You know, those types of things. So there’s a lot of different kinds, some of them completely cover your ears, some just a little bit in your ears or in front. But whatever you can do to be comfortable. And spend a couple bucks. I mean, it doesn’t have to be three or 400. Although there’s some really nice ones that that price too. But don’t buy the $25 ones that you can find at Walmart. You’re gonna be sitting in these for hours. Yeah. Spend a couple bucks to not have a headache by the time you’re done.

Brent Warner 24:20
Yeah, and it’s surprising sometimes even the better ones like the leaner, like if your head is bigger, right? And then they end up pinching and you know, like you said three hours in that thing and your ears are worked by the end so so yeah, find something play around with them. Don’t be afraid to send them back I guess either when you know if if you’re finding like hey, after one day of use and I’m I’m hurtin like, you can send it back and find something that’s a little bit better for you know, whatever your head size is. So definitely lots of things in there for teaching remotely. And again, if you really want to get into this we have episodes in the past where we’ve talked about this in depth. But the last one Tim I don’t think we’ve talked about very much is move In between classrooms like actual, like, Hey, I’m on campus, I teach in these three different rooms on, you know, same same day, I just kind of moved from this room to that room, you know, what’s in the room might be nice. And every college and every school is going to be a little bit different for that. But you might want to have some consistency in your movement, right? And so. So what would you recommend that people bring when they’re physically on campus and just running from room to room?

Tim Van Norman 25:27
So as I look at it, what you have to know what the technology is in the various rooms, sometimes the technology, as you said, is the same. And sometimes it’s different. I’m understanding that is also going to be a big factor in what you bring. But typically, I look at bringing a laptop. So yes, I’ve said laptop, I think on every single one of these. But a laptop is really nice, because it’s yours. You know, how it’s set up? You know, where that particular application is that I want to run? You know, where that file is that I’ve stored? You, it’s yours? If you log into the computer that’s at the desk, is it in the same location? Do you have to look for it? Those types of things, I like, knowing it’s mine. So, so that myself, I really like bringing my own whiteboard, pens and eraser? Yep. How many times have you walked into a classroom, and there’s three pens there, and an eraser, and you pick up the eraser to erase the last person stuff. And you see why it was still left there because it streaks and then you pull up a pen, and you get every third dot showing up, you know, or something like that. If you bring your own. Yes, it’s a mess to it’s frustrating to carry. But it can really alleviate a lot of stress for you.

Brent Warner 26:52
Well, I’ll give a little advice on on the frustration to carry. So what I do for that, and I do this, this is like the only thing I bring to my class is pens, right? Because we have all these whiteboards up now. And I always want to make sure that I’m safe, but but I do have, I basically got a dopp kit. So one of those like toiletry bags that you can get and you know, I got a super simple one, it’s just a single bag inside. And it’s you know, there’s no like side pockets and all these extra things. It’s just one thing. And so you can just go look for a basic toiletry bag or dopp kit, and then they hold in, you know, I think it’ll probably hold like 20 or 25 Expo pens or something like that. And so really convenient. And I can throw away, throw in a couple of my other little extra things that I carry around too, but quick and easy to access for everything. So instead of, you know, I do see sometimes teachers carrying like a whole fistful of pens, and they’re almost slipping out of their arms or whatever it’s like that, let’s just put it in something a little higher quality bag, not you know, I mean, you can get a plastic bag or whatever too, but they lie flat and they end up being kind of awkward. And so I like just a big bag where I can just grab a quick one one out of them, not big, I mean I guess it’s probably, you know, six inches wide by three inches deep or something like that, but, but pretty easy. So yeah, that would be my my addition to the pens as well.

Tim Van Norman 28:18
We talked before about an HDMI adapter when when we’re talking about going to conferences, make sure if you need to get an adapter for your laptop or your tablet to HDMI, if that’s the way you’re going to be teaching. Make sure you have a quality adapter. It’s this is your livelihood, spend a couple of bucks and get the actual brand. Depending on what equipment is in place, it can be the difference between something working and something working for a minute and then shutting off.

Brent Warner 28:54
Yeah, for sure. I’m gonna add in also a your own remote control so most classrooms often have a remote control inside of them but not everyone right and sometimes there they get lost because another teacher uses the room and disappears somehow right? They walked away with it something so I like to have my own separate remote. We’ve talked about that Logitech spotlight that is my favorite but actually, I’m realizing recently I do still wish the Logitech spotlight had a laser in it like the because it’s got the it plugs into the computer and then it uses software to highlight things you have to install all that software. So it’s still universal, it’s quick and it you know, I can still you know advance through slides or whatever else it is but but I do like having the laser pointer as well. So, so you might want to look into just if you have again, everybody’s needs are their own so so you could get a cheap $25 remote or $20 remote with a laser in it or or if you want to get more fancy with the if you’re bringing your own computer, then that Logitech spotlight might be a good choice as well. So, so definitely some, you know just it’s yours. It’s you know how to work with it, it’s going to be ready. And most of those remotes are plug and play at this point.

Tim Van Norman 30:05
Absolutely. The last thing I wanted to point out is bring along a USB drive. Even if you have your stuff on the cloud, just in case, and what do I mean by that? 99% of the time, you’re going to have internet, right? But that one time when you’re counting on it, you might not. And so personally, I store everything on the cloud. So this is actually a whole thing that I have to consciously do is oh, okay, what am I presenting today, I want to make sure I have that physically able to be accessed on the computer itself, you know, a USB drive downloaded ahead of time, something so that it physically is there, rather than just relying on the internet, and find out that Oh, oops, you know, this doesn’t have a network connection, or whatever, for some reason.

Brent Warner 31:03
Yeah. Yeah. So my last one here is a, a travel power strip. So this could be any one, um, I was kind of looking for one. So I haven’t bought this yet. But I’m like, I’ve been looking eyeballing it for a while. So you know, you have students that show up in class, and they want to work at their computer, but the, they’re the, I haven’t in my class where they have to, they’re like trying to move the desk closer to the wall, so that they can plug in their computer. So I’m just like, Okay, if I had a little extension cord, and if that extension cord, you know, six feet and then and if that extension cord, then had like a USB, you know, at the end of it in a little USB plug or option, in addition to the regular plug options, that would be great. And so I was looking up a couple of you know, things and something portable, something easy, some of these are pretty bulky, but you can get something like four feet to six feet, extend the length of it, and then the students at that spot can plug in for a little bit of time. Or you can and you never know when you might need to plug in something else and have a little bit of extra moving space from the wall or from the socket. So So taking a look at the options, I found one that can wrap up pretty tight. And so it seems you know, again, similar to the brick, battery charger size, right, you can just wrap up the cord on top of it and and then have options for charging. So we that seems to be the the theme here is make sure you’re charged charged.

Tim Van Norman 32:25
Absolutely. And and that unfortunately, when you’re away from home and you don’t have a charger i i did this a year ago, I actually wound up going to the store because I was on vacation and I needed to use my laptop. And I didn’t have the right charger. So I had to go buy one. And that makes for that’s more frustrating because I knew I had three of them laying on the desk at home. I you know we’ve all have.

Brent Warner 32:51
Yeah, it’s brutal. But yeah, so there’s some different different options inside of there. Hopefully one or two of those are useful, and we’ll keep it we’ll keep our eyes out for other useful things in the future. Absolutely.

Tim Van Norman 33:05
Thank you for listening today. In this episode, we talked about physical accessories and a digital world. For more information about this show, please visit our website at thehigheredtech podcast.com. There you’ll find our podcasts and links to the information we’ve covered.

Brent Warner 33:18
As always, we do want your feedback. So please go to the higher ed tech podcast.com and let us know your thoughts. If you have ideas for future shows. There’s a link over there where you can give us your topic ideas as well.

Tim Van Norman 33:29
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Brent Warner 33:45
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Tim Van Norman 33:50
I’m Tim VanNorman,

Brent Warner 33:51
and I’m Brent Warner and we hope this episode has helped you on the road from possibility to actuality. Take care everyone.